1000 Terabyte - 100 Host Array
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@bmlan I don't think that in the long-term this will be a problem. I envision hundreds of Hosting Providers and tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of individual hosts.
From a Hosting providers perspective this is as good as it gets.
- You don't need to have a marketing team (or be good at it)
- You don't need to have a customer service department
- You don't need to have a billing department
You have to be good at just one thing (managing and maintaining Storage servers). Up-time is probably the most important single metric you will be judged by (and by an impartial algorithm).
I am hopeful that this type of business model will start to spread. It would put an end to near-monopolies that can come into existence just by brand recognition alone.
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From a Hosting providers perspective this is as good as it gets.
- You don't need to have a marketing team (or be good at it)
- You don't need to have a customer service department
- You don't need to have a billing department
You have to be good at just one thing (managing and maintaining Storage servers). Up-time is probably the most important single metric you will be judged by (and by an impartial algorithm).
:)
This is exactly why Sia will be cheaper than Amazon. We make it very easy for people with uniquely competitive situations to compete openly, and to be judged by the strength of their infrastructure instead of by their business prowess.
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@bmlan said in 1000 Terabyte - 100 Host Array:
Is there no way for the algorithm to determine how many hosts there are, to prevent centralization? Or automatically not to use HDs of a single host beyond a certain storage volume?
It depends on how determined a provider is to hide the fact that they are running multiple hosts. If @theone for example were to do something that I considered dangerous to the network (say, deploy all 100 today and all at hyper-competitive pricing), we'd respond with a release that made sure only a few of those hosts would be used by the same person. We could take direct action to protect the network if we discovered something that we felt was dangerous.
But, if someone were to do this in a more sneaky way, we may not see it. We do monitor these things though, and we try to adjust the host-choosing algorithms to always optimize for data-safety.
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Here are a few pictures from the ongoing construction. We will have a nearly 2000 Sq Ft Server Room and roughly 500 Sq Ft of office space.
We will be starting off with 112KVA 3 Phase 600V Dry Transformer
Nearly 2000 Sq Ft Server Room
Mezzanine Workspace
Electrical work and testing began this week and will be completed by March 20th (I will post some new pics shortly).
We aren't going crazy with extras – we just need a no-frills server room. With that said we will cover all the essentials.
- Generator Backup
- UPS System
- Diverse Fiber paths
- Cooling
No Mortgage or Lease Payments... We own the property outright.
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@theone Very nice. I just wonder how much initial capital you used to setup this project?
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@tylerdurden The entire setup, including the commercial property will set us back around $475K Canadian ( under $100K budgeted for the server room).
Just to be clear.... We already own most of the equipment (routers, network switches, racks and Fiber cards). So the $100k budget really only involves preparing the server room.
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We do intend to make the build instructions open source once the designs are finalized. Everything from Routers, Switches, Rackmount Server Case and even the type of Concrete Epoxy used on the server room floor :)
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@Taek - Out of curiosity, is there a way to watch the number of active hosts? It'd be cool to see when the network is growing :)
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@ElvisRe Running
siac hostdbfrom any Sia node should do. If you want a more graphically pleasing presentation then SiaPulse.com has a global map of hosts at http://siapulse.com/page/network
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@in-cred-u-lous - Awesome, thanks!
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hey, @theone, any news?
How its going?
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Looking forward to the update and photos
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Hi,everyone!
A few minor delays will be pushing our opening date back. We are waiting for a delivery of some equipment including the transfer switch. In the meantime we are installing the overhead cable racking and finishing up the office space.
We are now hoping to have the first servers up before May 10th.
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@theone How is the progress mate? Still on schedule to launch on May 10th? Huge fan here :)
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terribly if one large player can jeopardize the balance among fellow hosts - I really have fingers crossed that math in the renter app take good care of this.
Having the network capacity multiplied over night cannot be healthy.. This is so far away from the idea with SIA, as I understand it.
Perhaps it does not matter so much in this early stage - I struggle to see any one make profit with the current demand for storage and the total lack of integrated easy consumable services aimed at the masses..
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1 large player should not matter for now. It might in the future. Small issue.
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Eventually the network will become so large that 1 PB more or less won't really matter
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@larsfloe said in 1000 Terabyte - 100 Host Array:
terribly if one large player can jeopardize the balance among fellow hosts - I really have fingers crossed that math in the renter app take good care of this.
Having the network capacity multiplied over night cannot be healthy.. This is so far away from the idea with SIA, as I understand it.
Perhaps it does not matter so much in this early stage - I struggle to see any one make profit with the current demand for storage and the total lack of integrated easy consumable services aimed at the masses..
@larsfloe then you'll be glad to know that the renter will be able to work around this and make sure that data remains decentralized. And it will work even better when we start optimizing for geographic diversity.
Sia is very different from Bitcoin mining. Renters have the ability to choose their hosts, but Bitcoin users don't have the ability to choose their miners. So one large host does not have as much ability to threaten the network as a large miner in Bitcoin. Especially if all the servers are in the same geographic location.
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@Taek Hi Taek, could you please elaborate a bit more on how the renters can freely choose the hosts? Thank you.
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...guessing the renter is in this context referred to as the autonomous software bit that does the math to automatically select it's host ?
