3. I Too transfered coins to my Sia windows program wallet and never received em, stuck "Sync-ing" at 30,078 for 3 days now...wtf? thousands of sia coins now lost? Can you please reimburse me?

I Too transfered coins to my Sia windows program wallet and never received em, stuck "Sync-ing" at 30,078 for 3 days now...wtf? thousands of sia coins now lost? Can you please reimburse me?

  • admins

    How long did you give the wallet before giving up? The wallet can take upwards of half an hour to unlock on an HDD. We're fixing this to be more instant in v1.1.2.

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    How long did you give the wallet before giving up? The wallet can take upwards of half an hour to unlock on an HDD. We're fixing this to be more instant in v1.1.2.

    I didn't wait so long. The good news is that now I'm synchronized, after 24 minutes, and it works fine.

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    I'm adding to this thread in May of 2017. It has been MONTHS since this thread was started.
    After HOURS of "syncing", SIA says 8.1%.
    I have NO INTEREST IN MINING. I want to use SIA to store data (you know -the thing the project is supposedly ALL ABOUT IN THE 1ST PLACE...)
    My computer: I5 CPU with 8 GB RAM on a 12 Mbit internet connection. This performance is inexcusable.

    I am a system's analyst with over 30 years experience. I know what destroys software companies.
    This sort of delay will DESTROY the SIA PROJECT. Did you read that?
    NO AVERAGE PERSON is going to wait a DAY or TWO for a program to load that lets them store their data on a decentralized cloud. What's going to happen when SIA has increased the number of users and there is a substantially bigger blockchain to manage? Wait a week?
    As a data-storage-customer, I don't want SIA using even 2% of my system resources. I have NO INTEREST in mining and no interest in maintaining the SIA network.
    So, if the SIA development team thinks that end-customers who merely want data storage services are going to let a BLOCKCHAIN run on their computers in order to have mere data storage - you've lost touch with reality!
    A user interested in end-point data service (storing their data on the SIA network) should NEVER need to download the blockchain. NEVER! Say "NEVER". Fix it.

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    I transferred 100k to my Sia wallet 7 hours ago and don't see them yet. The wallet is still synchronizing, at 42% now. I'm with the poster above, I have a relatively new hardware, 8GB RAM which is typical and for a tool like this, minutes is too slow, let alone hours or days for a wallet to sync. As a typical end user, I wouldn't put a file on there based on that experience. Sia has to make some massive steps forward on this, or the project will die. Stick to the goal, I'm ready to use Sia, just make it possible.

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    I have the exact same issue as @benj8min (but with 'only' 20k SIA coins)... It is a bit stressful especially considering the fact that each time I'm clicking on 'Receive Siacoin' the software generates a brand new address so what happen to the previous ones? Can I mine on any of these addresses as they keep changing and I can't get one back?
    Thanks for any answer,

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    @benj8min said in I Too transfered coins to my Sia windows program wallet and never received em, stuck "Sync-ing" at 30,078 for 3 days now...wtf? thousands of sia coins now lost? Can you please reimburse me?:

    I transferred 100k to my Sia wallet 7 hours ago and don't see them yet. The wallet is still synchronizing, at 42% now. I'm with the poster above, I have a relatively new hardware, 8GB RAM which is typical and for a tool like this, minutes is too slow, let alone hours or days for a wallet to sync. As a typical end user, I wouldn't put a file on there based on that experience. Sia has to make some massive steps forward on this, or the project will die. Stick to the goal, I'm ready to use Sia, just make it possible.

    Update - 71%, still no sign of the Siacoins. Will they appear at the end of what looks like being a day and a half long sync? So long. Had I known, I wouldn't have bothered.

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  • @benj8min Syncing the entire blockchain and verifying each block is how you are able to operate on the Sia network without trusting a central authority. Your coins will appear when your client processes the block in which they were sent to your address.

    We are working on improving sync times, but having to sync a blockchain is the cost you pay for a fully decentralized and trustless system.

    @fabricus Not to worry, each time you click 'Receive Siacoin', a new address is generated. All of these address go to your wallet, the reason why it changes each time is to discourage address reuse.

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    Appreciate the response Jonathan, I understand. (84% now). From a user perspective, that sync time has to come down dramatically. I don't think it would hurt to prompt the user making the timescale clearer when starting the sync (it would have saved me coming onto a forum / googling, which inevitably turns up some negativity and doubt), the typical user doesn't tend to sift through documentation, white papers, FAQ sites etc. and I'd imagine would have cancelled the sync and closed Sia, never to be opened again.

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  • Z

    I REALLLy apreciate the help! I REALLy do! So my coins are safe if I have my wallet strong right? And i do so my 30,000 sia i bought for five dollars is now worth one undred and fifty dollars and i can sell them on poloniex for bitcon and cash at anytime but i wanna save em! Imagine how much theyll be worth soon! And I WILL make a bounty for sia paper wallets! sia wallet needs to be SEPERATE from the syncing we should be able to acces the wallet even without syncing, even if you cant spen or withdraw you should be able to see it, and maybe allow someone to geta warnng about how long this takes...yes that is what you need

    a WARNING to WARN us HEY DONT SEND SIA COINS to your Sia walet because the program might just FREEZE and NEVER WORK and youll NEVER get your coins back!

    bevause I STIL havent gotten my coins back and youre LUCKY sia has gone up in value! I better get these coins back i sWEARto god!!! I

    I have my long strong backup THAN GOD so I can acccess my oins from ANOTHER computer RIGHT!!?!

    PLESE tell me I am fine i didnt do any contracts etc, I just wanna make sure i can get my coins beause they re now worth $152!!!! and its gonan be worth $1 each and maybe this year! And that $five bucks will be 30,000 dollars and I WILL DONATE some of that back to sia! i will even send you some ccash because you guys made tis all posiible!

    ok but back to me being mad at you (for customer service practice ;) !

    you should give a WARNING tp NOT SEND COINS to the PROGRAm UNTILL ITS FULLY SYNCED!

    I thought I was sccrewed but I see people are getting teh coins back as its a bllockchin product and can be backed up and restored beause you guys did a good job! OW I have to thank youf or making me $147 dollars profit! five buccks into one hundred and fifty bucks in just a month! WOW

    You cant even tell me where my wallet is! iHOW IS THATA GOOD SING when the SUPPORT people who BUIL rthe app tell you to go look for a wallet folder AND ITS NOT THERE WTF hahahah BAD SING RED FLAG RED FLAG

    @in-cred-u-lous Ok I am HOPING tat you are just not aware that I am on winddows, beause there IS NO "consensus" folder in resources/app/sia!

    I ddid a search and its under Siacoin\Resources\App\plugin\Wallet !!!

    sorry ;) i guess maybe its different in mac or linux or maybe you just forgot the full path?

    anyway that Five dollars worth of sia or 30,000 sia is now worth

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    @Zackza
    Calm down.
    On windows (at least on windows10) your wallet can be found in the folder
    C:\Users{your windows username}\AppData\Roaming\Sia-UI\sia

    There is the consensus folder too.
    I remember here on the forum was a tip for downloading the consensus.db for those having extremely long syncing time.
    Have a look at it and try that out.
    http://forum.sia.tech/topic/155/consensus-db-downloads

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  • Z

    @reinisp Sorry i edited my comment to be nicer re read it, i apologize,

    I am on windows 7

    found 2 consensus.md files one is in Siacoin\resources\app\Sia\doc\api

    and another consensus.md in \Siacoin\resources\app\Sia\doc\

    whuch one should i ddelete?

    and I found my walle.md file in Siacoin\resources\app\Sia\doc\api is that ok?

    I also have my wallet string bacup, so that should also allow me to backup my wallet right? the long line of words like a brain alleet? right? I will have no problem with that, but youre trying to help me getmy sia program work as it is now an maybe resync right?

    i RREALLY apreciate the help and MANy peopel willbe happy to see such great suppprt! I will post this all on Steemit (my steemit is @ackza and i will show the steemit community how hepful sia coin support is! You guys have better support tan coinbase!

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    @Zackza
    I don't think that .md are the right files...
    What I know is that Sia is storing all the "operating data" (consensus,wallet,renter and so on) under the "user specific" folder and not in the application folder.
    The "AppData" folder is hidden/system by default, so you can not see it if you have not explicitly allowed to see and browse hidden and system folders.
    The AppData folder is in the same folder as your "Desktop", "Downloads", "My Documents" folders.

    I'm not sure if the AppData name is the same "AppData" or "Application Data" under Windows7, but if you get into that folder you should see Local and Roaming subfolders. Search for consensus.db file there and you will get to the sia operating data folder.

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    @reinisp OK that worked ! I had to find teh right consensus folder AND i found the wallet backup and inside the folder for wallet had the file with the seed (it is named sia wallet seed ) its awesome! I love this now!

    haha
    OMG found teh App data! I had to go under FOLDER options in CNTROl panel in winows 7 and do the whole "Shwo Hidden Files" trick! NOW i found the Appliccation or APP data under my user folder! it was HIDDEN before! Now i found SIA gui!

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    @Zackza
    Now follow the steps mentioned in the post
    http://forum.sia.tech/topic/155/consensus-db-downloads

    Then you should be only a few hours from seeing your actual balance if your AppData folder is on a conventional hard drive or much sooner if you have SSD as your system drive.

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    @reinisp

    OUH Oh new problem now my walllet password wont work! it says Wallet Unlocked, rror when providing encruption key and it just worked a few mins ago, what happened!?!

    I am sorry for my franticness but I wanna use sia and wish the app would work..

    THANK YOU for the help i REALLy do apreciate it!

    OK NOW it works!

    had replaced the CONSENSUS file i took out of the api folder, and so i moved it backk, maybe that was it, I restarted sia, and it seemed to work wen I tried my passowrd, but no it cameback with same error message "error when calling /wallet/unlock: provided encryption key is incorrect
    " but im up to almost 7000 block height do i need to let it download before i can login with my walllet password?

    I still am happy i made oney with this but its unfortunately un usable at this time

    And about downloading a new consensus file.. is that necisary now? Pnly if it gets stuck again right?

    this is VERY tedious how do you expect non tech savvy people to EVER be able to use this? Well I get that my case is not normal, most people have newer computers but still you should have warned me not to send sia to a wallet that is not synced OR to not install sia on a computer as old as mine....theer was never a warning or minimum requirement info!

    i would apreciate you giving em a way to actualy get my coins , this hasntreally helped now that my password doesnt work!
    Well Its already downloading it...but if it gets stuc, ill repeat the steps and manually download it from the new instructions here rigt? http://forum.sia.tech/topic/155/consensus-db-downloads

    im definitly posting this on steemit ! They will LOVE to see how someone put five dollars intoan altcoin with promise and ended up with $152 a month or so later! I ccant WAIt for each siacoin to be worth $1 ill have $30,000 and I wil use ALOT of it for storage! wow cant wait to actually buy storage for my SMARTPHONE!

    can i use sia with my smartphone instead of icloud?

    wow i am kinda GLAD i kept my siacoins here where i couldnt spen em! if they were on poloniex i would have sold them awhile ago for more steller and ripple! wiw im glad i chose sia!

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    @Zackza
    You know, Sia is not really mature yet.
    It is working and being improved all the time.

    You can start over from scratch, but start it on a machine with SSD as system drive.
    If you did not share your seed with someone, your funds are safe and sooner or later you will get access to them.

    But do not expect a really big price increase unless the dollar crashes hard against everything.

    Sia is meant for storage. SC are used to pay for the storage. Trading them is a way to use them before it is mature and you are not interested in renting.
    On my node I get:
    host -v
    General Info: Estimated Competitive Price: 5.823 KS

    That means 5000 SC for a TB/Month.
    Do you think someone would rent a terabyte per 5000 dollar a month? The storage price in SC will get down, but then the investments needed to start a new hosting node (50KS for collateral) will be insane.

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    @reinisp yes I thoight about that!

    Its ok yeah ill wait, ill get a better machine to restore my wallet seed on, but i also am gonna guess my password isnt working because its not synced yet? need sto sync fiirst to let me login right?

    also i just get off on these idea of accumulative passive income of just collcting coisn from monetizing your cpu ith minig, monetize your hdd with sia and storj or monetize your Bandwidt with msytereum soon, haha and whats next monetizinga nd selling your Ram I guess Sia already knda oes that right as its ram hungry?

    I jut see so many possibiliteies for sia! and this whole blockchain tech! its ALOT more valuable tan people realize! especialy te abiliyto just have this much computing power! Ethereum with its infiniet scalablity withh be VERY useful when someone realizes they can run simulations of the universe with all these exohashs! And simualtions of te whole universe run on blocchain cuper computr networks that allow pepel to predict provcesm can end up paying istelf off! SO someone spends millions to use te entire ethereum system to run a simulation of the planet and actually predict crypto currency prices, and then use that info to make bets and make tthe money bak! I just think theers gonan be tns of things we can use a massive worldwide super computer for! and we will need SIA to STORE some of this data we will be creating in the future with he increase in cameras sensors etc

    but still thats cool that your getting thousands of sia for a terabyte!

    yah thanks for the reassurace!

    i really do apologize for the snappiness...whast your steemit name? I @ackza i will send you a couple steem dollars for your time! or email me with ur siacoin deposit address il send u some sia with poloiex or BTC if you want btc

    but cant sia go up and then the price can go down for storage at the same time? is it really necessary to keep sia price low to keep storage prices lo ccant they just adjust the price according to the sia coin price in dollars?

    imean its gone up over 10 fold revcently has that made the prie of storage go p 10 fold

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    @Zackza
    unfortunately I am not getting a coin from hosting as I haven't set it up to be operating safe and stable. And I doubt 5KS is really a competitive price now.

    regarding password I can't help. That's a question to the developers.
    Are the wallet passwords stored on the blockchain? I mean will the once set password persist after wallet recreation from seed?

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    I transferred 5000 Siacoins as a test, my macbook(latest model) has sycn'd but there is no sign of the coins in my wallet.
    What am i meant to do next ? I want to transfer a lot more coins but i am just waiting to ensure i figure this out first.

    Here is the address i sent the coins too: 13a86bf8d844c0d82f0350be53ede4770554f6ee3e2c7e1e204589514d5125690e7fa0a25d76
    I sent it from Poloniex to my sia wallet.

    Can anyone please advise what i should do next, i am new to this and would greatly appreciate some help!

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    May I ask if it possible to move the consensus folder to another drive(windows 10)?
    I am having low free space on my C drive (ssd) and i'd like to move it to a normal HDD

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