Get back collateral from sharing storage?



  • I dont think my storage was actually used, I literally had it setup for a couple of days. Also, why would it take random inputs as collateral, how does that make any sense? I want my SIA back, this is a bug.


  • admins

    How many siacoins are missing? There are a few things that this could be, but a bug here is not likely. Possible, but not likely.

    which looks like it took two of my incoming transactions (randomly) and sent them to another address as collateral.

    Can you explain this a little more? The wallet doesn't take entire transactions, it'll break the transactions into multiple pieces and only use what it needs. Though, that part is not displayed to the user at all. If you saw entire transaction move, it's likely that someone manually moved them.

    Were you ever a miner? At some point last summer or fall I believe there was a mining guide (not created by us!) that had users exposing their entire wallet API to the open internet. The guide had users setting Sia up in an unsafe way such that money could be stolen trivially with just a network call. If you did mining around this time, its possible you were a victim to this.



  • I'm having a similar issue to this guy I believe: https://forum.sia.tech/topic/232/how-did-i-just-spent-170k-sc/23

    I never mined with the SIA client, only on a pool so that would not be the case. I noticed these transactions when I tried sharing my HD space (twice), so they are definitely related. The inputs are from mining pool payout or possibly from poloniex.

    I'm syncing up my SIA client right now to get the GUI screenshots, but here are the 2 transactions:

    https://explore.sia.tech/hash.html?hash=91c8a13b517fa42dc4e652e642f0d2810f46e3cec40b802eb80a446cfdd39bbe -> coins now sitting at https://explore.sia.tech/hash.html?hash=6cd31ce99c4ba750120fd337796b245a993201db7348d641c92873c589cc61b1ef71d09e6e4a

    https://explore.sia.tech/hash.html?hash=a3465646d0296a1156bfac00b2f02aadfc388318cd645846111d749a5c92e18e -> coins now sitting at https://explore.sia.tech/hash.html?hash=7e15c25b49659d4f9918141004456bc4497c02f288f2ecb1026ce49456906f58e81fd699cb78

    So I see an outgoing transaction in my GUI for that amount from what I remember, and nothing ever coming back in. When I originally did it, it seemed like some collateral that I would get back. This was in the SIA version around the time frame the transactions occurred.



  • Here is the transaction list: alt text

    http://imgur.com/a/x9SoP


  • admins

    That is very strange, though the timestamps say that this happened back in July 2016. Are you sure that you did not make those transactions yourself? And also, did the amount of total siacoins that you had drop? I''m asking because this may just be a display bug.

    Oh. I think I know the issue. Did you load this seed from a backup? I'm guessing this isn't your original wallet? If so, the coins are in your wallet the wallet just can't see them. We have a fix for this coming in v1.2.0, but in the meantime there's not an easy way to get them back.

    edit*: you will be able to get them back when v1.2.0 comes out, but we need to finish testing + integrating the code.



  • @Taek I'm guessing they are still in the wallet, but I just can't access them. I didn't try making any transactions so as not to mess anything up further. The wallet I used was a backup from my original install, but this wallet was not aware of any contracts I put up, because they were done after the fact. So I think you are correct. I did read something at one point to try changing the "PrimarySeedProgress", but I didn't know what to change it for.

    Thanks for the quick reply and look forward to the next version. If you have any suggestions in the mean time, let me know!


  • admins

    you can do the 'PrimarySeedProgress' thing, it'll slow the wallet down a bit, but for users who might be reading this and missing millions of SC, I'll explain it anyway.

    First you want to turn off the wallet. Then you want to open up Sia's 'wallet.json' file. On Linux, it's in $HOME/.config/Sia-UI/sia/wallet/wallet.json. On Windows it'll be in %APPDATA% and I'm not quite sure where that file ends up on Mac. But in it there's a value PrimarySeedProgress, and if you crank that up a bunch you should see your coins again. For very old wallets, you may need to put it at 250,000 or even 1,000,000. But for most wallets 100,000 should be good enough to find pretty much everything.



  • That worked, thank you. Value of 100,000 did the trick. Hope to see some future success from you guys. Maybe a future collaboration with LBRY could be possible if we think of some neat integration. haha


  • admins

    We would love to integrate with LBRY at some point in the future. Especially once we have deployed the CDN capabilities of Sia.


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